Record cleaning

Re: Record cleaning

Postby Harry » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:59 pm

No idea, never used a Spin Clean, anyone else??

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Re: Record cleaning

Postby Mr_Putty » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:48 pm

I Have a Vinyl Styl, similar to Spin Clean? The brushes may be different, but there is the possibility of recontaminating from used brushes. I like using spray bottles filled with distilled water only after a cleaning with my VS. Any dirty water just drops into the sink. A light brushing with microfiber cloth quickly removes the water drops. Then they go into a drying rack about five minutes. I am building a US system for cleaning records. It works great for CDs as well. Only needs about 30 sec in the tank, holding and turning by hand.
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Re: Record cleaning

Postby dmormerod » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:50 pm

Mr_Putty wrote:I Have a Vinyl Styl, similar to Spin Clean? The brushes may be different, but there is the possibility of recontaminating from used brushes. I like using spray bottles filled with distilled water only after a cleaning with my VS. Any dirty water just drops into the sink. A light brushing with microfiber cloth quickly removes the water drops. Then they go into a drying rack about five minutes. I am building a US system for cleaning records. It works great for CDs as well. Only needs about 30 sec in the tank, holding and turning by hand.


Ok thanks. I have some new brushes but I’ll just try a rinse without the SpinClean.
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Re: Record cleaning

Postby MOON » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:03 am

I have one question for those that use a rcm after for a rinse or a final vacuum to remove the water. When the record comes out of the ultra sonic bath both sides are wet.

What do you do before placing the record on the rcm platter since both sides are wet? I haven't got an ultrasonic tank yet but probably will due to the results discribed on this forum.
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Re: Record cleaning

Postby leftside » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:08 pm

dmormerod wrote:OK, So I've read through all 53 something pages and other than my head spinning, have a couple of questions.

I'm coming from a Spin Clean, Vinyl Vac world! I've ordered a 6L US bath and the record cleaning mechanism from Haunted Mfg (https://www.facebook.com/zaphod1212/).

I have some Hepastat 256, distilled water and IPA to make up the solution following the 'Rushton' formula, but had a question, can I substitute Ilford Ifotol (or Kodak equivalent) for Triton X-100?

For the rinse step, is it worth using the Spin Clean with a distilled water + IPA mix or would that negate the work of the US?

I will still Vinyl Vac as the last step.

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If you have dirtier records I recommend using the Spin Clean first. Then US. Then Vinyl Vac for rinse.

Yes you can substiture the Ifotol for Triton X-100.
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Re: Record cleaning

Postby leftside » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:10 pm

MOON wrote:I have one question for those that use a rcm after for a rinse or a final vacuum to remove the water. When the record comes out of the ultra sonic bath both sides are wet.

What do you do before placing the record on the rcm platter since both sides are wet? I haven't got an ultrasonic tank yet but probably will due to the results discribed on this forum.
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I use the cloths from the Spin Clean to wipe down one side and place that side onto the RCM.
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Re: Record cleaning

Postby madrac » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:54 pm

MOON wrote:I have one question for those that use a rcm after for a rinse or a final vacuum to remove the water. When the record comes out of the ultra sonic bath both sides are wet.

What do you do before placing the record on the rcm platter since both sides are wet? I haven't got an ultrasonic tank yet but probably will due to the results discribed on this forum.
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I dry both sides with the cloth which came with the vinyl stack.
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Re: Record cleaning

Postby Packgrog » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:41 am

Ditch the Spin Clean. If it's filthy enough to need a pre-clean before ultrasonic, the Spin Clean brushes are just going to drag the grime through the grooves and damage the record. Instead, either put them straight into the ultrasonic, or get a hand-held Vinyl Stack to protect the labels, get a hand-held pump sprayer, and rinse them off with distilled/deionized water before putting them in the ultrasonic (don't let them dry off, though). I actually put filthy stuff straight into the ultrasonic and just filter out the grime later. A Spin Clean won't help you at any stage if you have ultrasonic and vacuum.

As far as vacuuming wet records, I do let them drip dry a bit after ultrasonic, but I also have a record label-sized gasket of Herbie's thin grungebuster material on my RCM platter to help keep the grooves from touching the platter, and help maintain grip. Works pretty well, but a bit expensive for that purpose. Post-rinse vacuuming is actually a good use case for something like the KAB EV-1 or Record Doctor V, as you want the felt to be wet before vacuuming, and the record is only touched there and around the label. The underside vacuum style RCM just sucks for soaking/scrubbing (flipping records constantly is super tedious).
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Re: Record cleaning

Postby leftside » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:11 pm

@packgrog - having a think about what you wrote - I think you're correct. I haven't used my Spin Clean for a long time, and was just keeping it in case I purchased a used dirty record, but don't think I'll even use it for that now. I'll stick to the US + HW-17 for all records.
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Re: Record cleaning

Postby dmormerod » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:57 pm

leftside wrote:
dmormerod wrote:OK, So I've read through all 53 something pages and other than my head spinning, have a couple of questions.

I'm coming from a Spin Clean, Vinyl Vac world! I've ordered a 6L US bath and the record cleaning mechanism from Haunted Mfg (https://www.facebook.com/zaphod1212/).

I have some Hepastat 256, distilled water and IPA to make up the solution following the 'Rushton' formula, but had a question, can I substitute Ilford Ifotol (or Kodak equivalent) for Triton X-100?

For the rinse step, is it worth using the Spin Clean with a distilled water + IPA mix or would that negate the work of the US?

I will still Vinyl Vac as the last step.

TIA

If you have dirtier records I recommend using the Spin Clean first. Then US. Then Vinyl Vac for rinse.

Yes you can substiture the Ifotol for Triton X-100.


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