How Flat is Flat?

How Flat is Flat?

Postby smashatoms » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:40 pm

Simple question: What degree of warp in a new record is acceptable? None? .1mm? .5mm? More?

It’s surprising how many of the new records I purchase aren’t truly flat. Actually, my Goodwill finds probably yield better results!

At what point is a record warped enough that you send it back for a replacement?

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Re: How Flat is Flat?

Postby Golear » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:28 pm

If I can hear it, I'd return it if I could. That may depend on the cartridge and the length of the tonearm.
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Re: How Flat is Flat?

Postby Dorian » Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:09 am

If I can see the headshell move up and down, that’s too much for me! The periphery ring does help smooth out most minor warps for me, so I’m not returning many.
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Re: How Flat is Flat?

Postby Peer Gynt » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:19 am

If I can see the woofers pumping, it’s too warped.

If the stylus gets thrown through the lead in groove straight into the program, it’s too warped for me.

I picked up a used periphery ring a couple of months ago. It helps if the warp isn’t too bad.
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Re: How Flat is Flat?

Postby Brf » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:02 am

I buy most of my records from 2 local dealer who allow me open the album up and place it on their TT to evaluate the condition prior to purchase. Lately, I have had a string of good luck and most are perfectly flat.

If the album is used and out of print, I am more tolerant on warps, with new issues, not as much.
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Re: How Flat is Flat?

Postby spinblackcircle » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:54 am

Just initiated a return at Amazon for the Diana Krall/Tony Bennett album. It was a roller coaster. At the same time I had just opened a still sealed 1982 Mose Allison ‎– Middle Class White Boy and it was perfectly flat even after all these years.
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Re: How Flat is Flat?

Postby gene9p » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:40 am

spinblackcircle wrote:Just initiated a return at Amazon for the Diana Krall/Tony Bennett album. It was a roller coaster. At the same time I had just opened a still sealed 1982 Mose Allison ‎– Middle Class White Boy and it was perfectly flat even after all these years.


I got the red vinyl version at Barnes and Noble in store..no problems here
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Re: How Flat is Flat?

Postby kurtster » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:40 am

If it's dish warped it goes back. Same with a lip warp. Otherwise, I see how it plays and how bad.

Lately, the dish warp or bowl warp has been the most common I have encountered with new releases. I do plan on buying a http://vinylflat.com/ by the year's end to try and deal with some of the stuff I already have, mostly lip warps in gatefolds.
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Re: How Flat is Flat?

Postby DeeCee » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:10 pm

Funny... Morty asked the same thing... (NSFW)

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