Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Postby tom_hankins » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:57 am

Hello, new to forums!
I'm looking for the highest performance from these two options, adding on to the Signature is not an option.
1. Prime with ADS, dual pivot, and three belt set up
2. Prime Signature
Thanks in advance for any opinions.
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Re: Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Postby TomD » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:37 pm

I recently upgraded from the Prime to Prime Signature, and if I was in your shoes I would go Prime Signature all else being equal.

The biggest improvement to the Prime Signature is the armwand. It is really a much better part than the Prime arm and has the upgraded wiring. Also, the motor is in a much heavier housing which reduces vibration, and of course the plinth is much more substantial.

I have an SDS and have found the improvement in sound quality is very minor compared to the upgrades with the Prime Signature. I mainly like the SDS for convenience of switching 33/45.

You could always pickup an SDS/ADS later, and the cost of the dual pivot mod and multiple belt upgrades are minimal to add to the Signature.

Good luck!

Tom
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Re: Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Postby tom_hankins » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:13 pm

Thanks for your help. So would you say that the Signature is a little more of everything over the Prime sonically?
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Re: Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Postby TomD » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:23 pm

tom_hankins wrote:Thanks for your help. So would you say that the Signature is a little more of everything over the Prime sonically?


That pretty much sums it up. Diminishing returns are definitely kicking in - the Prime is already really great, the Signature just brings you a bit closer to the music.
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Re: Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Postby jonathanb » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:19 pm

I had a Prime, a Classic Signature and, finally, a Prime Signature. I feel the Prime Signature is an incremental improvement over the Classic Signature but is a more substantial improvement over the Prime. Go with the Prime Signature, set it up and listen to it for a few weeks then perhaps spring for a couple more drive belts and the dual pivot after you've become familiar with the sound of the stock Prime Sig.
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Re: Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Postby tom_hankins » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:56 am

Well problem solved. Bought a dealer demo HR-X with all the goodies, a 12.7 arm, and an ADS power supply.
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Re: Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Postby tom collins » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:20 pm

Tom. Congratulations, you are done.
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Re: Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Postby mreeter » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:40 am

tom_hankins wrote:Well problem solved. Bought a dealer demo HR-X with all the goodies, a 12.7 arm, and an ADS power supply.


My Dream Table, you did well! N'joy!!!
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Re: Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Postby tom_hankins » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:21 pm

tom collins wrote:Tom. Congratulations, you are done.


Thank you
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Re: Prime w/extras vs. Prime Signature?

Postby tom_hankins » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:22 pm

mreeter wrote:
tom_hankins wrote:Well problem solved. Bought a dealer demo HR-X with all the goodies, a 12.7 arm, and an ADS power supply.


My Dream Table, you did well! N'joy!!!


Thank You
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