Avenger 10" mount - I'm stumped!

Avenger 10" mount - I'm stumped!

Postby tony22 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:44 pm

So I got a 10" mounting base for my Avenger, and a matching VTA tower, for my 3D arm. The idea is to move this arm currently on my Classic 3 over as a second arm on my new Avenger. I looked at how the 12" assembly was put together and installed the VTA tower on to the mounting base. I then installed it all on the post immediately CCW from the existing 12" arm. I checked the 258mm pivot to spindle distance with my Feickert. All looked good there, but if you take a look at the photo it's pretty obvious the arm rest assembly (because of the mount's position) is rotated too far into the edge of the platter. I can't clear it so the stylus can drop on to a record's outer groove. Anyone know what gives?

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Re: Avenger 10" mount - I'm stumped!

Postby Brf » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:12 pm

When you ordered your second arm board, did you specify that it was to be pre-drilled for a 10 inch arm? It looks to be drilled for a 12" arm.
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Re: Avenger 10" mount - I'm stumped!

Postby tony22 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:14 pm

I was very clear about what I needed.
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Re: Avenger 10" mount - I'm stumped!

Postby tony22 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:14 pm

Well, the good folks at VPI (Marc and Leo, to be precise) confirmed that I need a different arm board for the Avenger. It should be on its way today. All's well as usual with the VPI team. :)
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Re: Avenger 10" mount - I'm stumped!

Postby Johnny » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:22 pm

tony22 wrote:Well, the good folks at VPI (Marc and Leo, to be precise) confirmed that I need a different arm board for the Avenger. It should be on its way today. All's well as usual with the VPI team. :)


What was the issue? Wasn't drilled for a 10 inch arm?
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Re: Avenger 10" mount - I'm stumped!

Postby tony22 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:32 pm

Apparently this mount was for different tables that have the same sort of "column" type leg assemblies. Not for the Avenger.
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Re: Avenger 10" mount - I'm stumped!

Postby Johnny » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:52 pm

Does it look like your other tonearm board? Can't tell by your picture.
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Re: Avenger 10" mount - I'm stumped!

Postby tony22 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:47 pm

Yeah, that's the weird part. I thought it looked like the other one, but I may have missed something subtle.
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Re: Avenger 10" mount - I'm stumped!

Postby tony22 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:55 pm

Well, things are now good thanks to Marc and Leo, but not in the way I expected. I thought I was going to get a new mounting plate. I got home to see a slightly bigger box waiting for me from VPI. What I got was a differently shaped 10" VTA tower mount. I took off the one that I had gotten previously (which was mounted to the board) and looked at them side by side. Sure enough the newer one was angled out a bit more. When I installed it on to the mounting plate and set the pivot to spindle distance, the 10" 3D arm cleared everything just fine.

Wasn't the solution I expected, but what do I know? ;)

BTW, if it matters to anyone, I think the SS Zephyr Mk.2 sounds better on the 10" 3D arm than it does on the 12", and the Benz SL sounds better on the 12" than it does on the 10".
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