Upgrading Prime 10" 3D tonearm wire...

Upgrading Prime 10" 3D tonearm wire...

Postby VinBob » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:58 am

Hello All,

I was wondering what upgrade options I would have for my Prime 10" 3D arm which was swapped out for me around Dec 2016 due to an issue with my original. What does the arm come with to begin with and what options and pricing would I be looking at roughly?

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Re: Upgrading Prime 10" 3D tonearm wire...

Postby Peer Gynt » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:06 am

Either flavor of the Fatboy would be the quick answer.

As I’m sure you know, VPI will give you 75% of retail in trade value for your current arm.

The Dual Pivot is the other quick answer, but I think you’ve already got one waiting to be installed.

There may be a rewiring option too.
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Re: Upgrading Prime 10" 3D tonearm wire...

Postby billo » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:07 am

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Re: Upgrading Prime 10" 3D tonearm wire...

Postby VinBob » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:13 am

Thanks all - what does the tonearm actually come with today?
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Re: Upgrading Prime 10" 3D tonearm wire...

Postby billo » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:45 am

I believe it is Discovery 2 or V2 option. I had the original Discovery upgraded to Nordost V2. The technical improvements - detail, vividness and speed - were all much improved, making instruments really pop. Voices, however, lost their "there-ness" and emoting by comparison. That was with a steel arm.
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Re: Upgrading Prime 10" 3D tonearm wire...

Postby VinBob » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:05 pm

Thanks all. Marc kindly confirmed that the the JMW-10-3D comes with VPI wire which is very similar to Discovery wire. So it’s not actually the Discovery wire but something close to it I guess....

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Re: Upgrading Prime 10" 3D tonearm wire...

Postby Peer Gynt » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:38 am

VinBob wrote:Thanks all. Marc kindly confirmed that the the JMW-10-3D comes with VPI wire which is very similar to Discovery wire. So it’s not actually the Discovery wire but something close to it


Mine looks like and sounds like Discovery wire. I have no complaints about the performance.

You know, a lot of this wire stuff is tied to the capacitance between the cartridge and the equalization circuit. This is why some guys hear huge differences with wire changes, and others don’t.

I’ve found the Audio Research and Conrad Johnson tube based phono sections to be exceptionally forgiving of cartridge loading issues. My solid state phono preamps have been much more sensitive to such things.
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